18:04, 16 September 2014
Moderator: Julia Balabanov.
– Today we talk about this strange phenomenon for me, as a youth journalism. Why strange? As a man of a practitioner, I receive a lot of requests from the education system, not only the school, but also pre-school to create children’s media. There is a public inquiry is not so much on the media for children, but on the media, which are created by the children – radio, television and newspapers. Even if we do not take into account the number of journalists, which annually produces the Philological Faculty of Perm State University, if we look at a number of journalistic circles, schools, courses, youth associations, I have a question – why Perm and Perm region as future journalists ? Natasha, you are alone with a philologist journalistic bias. Do you have the original vision of the problem, why do we need so many future journalists?
– When we first started working with young journalists do not always go exactly originally guys in our direction, and then come to us, we have the problem that they did it for journalism, and then began to journalists. We teach and even attract them to the fact that they learned to communicate, interact, developed the practice, which they will need in life and profession.
– It turns out that journalism is used simply as a way to develop a meta certain skills? Man learns to communicate, speak, write. But in this case we are creating an illusion of the families of those guys who send their children to the same school as a young journalist at the university, and learning it is paid, it’s such a cool career hurt?
– The guys we really write texts and see the finished product. Besides the fact that they are published in their school newspaper, is amended, there appears to be that the head – it’s one of the teachers, and it happens that the editor of the child. Then they can be published in our outdoor classroom, and for them it is also the status of this growth, because the media reported, this is the official publication, in the future they can put this in your portfolio.
– Still you have not answered my question. Even in kindergarten there is a certain need for children to was journalism. I say this from first hand, because in our kindergarten surveys were conducted – no matter what additional services would like to receive in the next academic year? a few people have written – journalism. This is a moment for children, who can not read and write, from 3 to 6 years. parents have already bought them for journalism. I just have a feeling that it is a mythological representation of the profession, prestige, career opportunities, for which it is necessary to grasp at the outset. Say, is not whether we have overestimated the status, the ability of the profession? It is somehow very strongly gets out of the range of career opportunities for those who see for themselves and children, and their parents.
– Sometimes we have to break stereotypes. Children talk about what they want to get into the TV, and it seems journalism parents in particular. But when they come, hard work begins, it is not always the frame, they see that there is still a lot of work, it is necessary to work hard on yourself, on the same text, they rewrite 3-4 times, it happens sometimes, but we are together find are building, and then the result they are happy. They just pull down the stereotype that journalism – it’s so cool, so profitably, and parents see them through this work that a lot of difficulties and challenges, in addition to a beautiful picture.
– What is decided on the basis of familiarity with these difficulties? There is so much that people refuse such a future for themselves and their children?
– Sometimes the guys, even those who come to the profile change and go in the direction of “Journalism” in the future speak and understand, “No, it’s not mine, I do not want to do it.” It is an experience for them, the experience for us, they realize that to do in life do not want to, it is easier to deal with embroidery, and singing something else. To try his hand in the profession before you come to the faculty and begin to work – it is also a plus.
– You and I have outlined two areas. This development of their own abilities and skills that will be useful to you in any profession, and secondly, it’s a professional test, find out it is appropriate or not appropriate, when they debunked crystal dream, in which you came, and you showered with all the benefits of peace . Your newspaper “Open lesson” goes around the Perm region, and with your words, it is one of two full papers, which in principle are located in the Perm region. There is a newspaper “Field” of the old school, with a little bit of Soviet traditions, which came out at all times. And there is a newspaper “Open lesson”. One of these two adults newspapers published in the Perm region, is dedicated to education. What you’re basically there? As far as you are sharp, relevant, what topics you care about?
– For all the documents we have the information and analytical publication. Besides the fact that we serve some events, talk about them, this event school district for children, teachers, professional competitions, it is also a kind of analyst. But this is not an analyst in the usual sense for all when it is a complicated terminology, analysis, too many facts. As a rule, the analyst implies a connection with the policy, and so on. In this case, we are trying to get away from this formality and dilute. Suppose this time we wrote about the repairs of schools, which were conducted in the area by September 1, and we had the idea to do this quest. We had a walker, boy Zhenya from Ust-pitching, he went with us, and we drew a comic based on a photograph, where he went, and he tried it, how to implement repairs at what stage they are at the moment.
– So, life school district for the kids as you problematiziruete topics? Can you afford to make the pages of the newspaper for local authorities unpleasant things?
– It is. For example, the problem with leisure, there are localities in which leisure is not organized, and the school is the only cultural and leisure center. When we say that there is a problem, guys write yourself a specific project, solve problems, we show that the strength of children something to do in the district, thereby draw the authorities’ attention to how it can be solved and do.
– How big you have editing, what percentage of children?
– Revision small, and the year the state expands, we have already held two shifts, one was autumn for journalists. Guys with these changes are the backbone of the editorial board, which exists in the area. They write, send materials that do not occur in the same mode as some settlements of the region are very separated from each other, we will work with them in the online edition exists virtually. They send us the materials we work with them for a distance. At the moment it’s about 15 people adults and children.
– How many of them children, what age?
– Half. This photographers and correspondents. Layout – in this area we are only working. Age – 5-10 class. Most write 8-11, high school students to write a little bit easier.
– What topics excite writing children? On what topics they are willing to write for yourself what a beak bring Received?
– Often, there is a problem that the events that take place in one settlement, they are completely unaware of the other. It is also a social associations, some volunteer work with someone. As a rule, the guys want to talk about what they are doing, share specific products. For example, we know that there is a Gamow project in which students interact with the kindergarten, they come there to help caregivers. But this may not know in the same Bersheti, and Bersheti organized club weekend, they Subboteya they spend Vecherki and gatherings, and this may not know in another district. The task – to show that they do talk about it. When they win some victories, they also want to talk about it and share it. We say that we do not need raw numbers and statistics, and we need experience and insight into.
– Perm region is in the unique position of this area around the vast metropolis. You are right in saying that the territory is invisible, and it turns out that there are major problems with its own identity. There Perm, Berezniki Nytva, Kungur – a territory that somehow yourself aware of, and Perm region – something around Perm, which is somewhat amorphous and fuzzy.
– Since October, we are launching in the area of radio broadcasts will be carried out on the Internet. Will also be leading the children, on the idea and our idea, just to speed up the process. The newspaper is published once a month, but this month a lot going on, do not tell everything, even advertise.
– How to extend your newspaper?
– As schools. She circulation 2000 copies, each school in the department of education has a cell, she comes and gets a pile of newspapers.
– But maybe you carry out surveys received feedback? Who reads, who is your primary audience? If the administration of the school, how many copies is brought to school at all?
– Accurate figures hard to say. 2000 we divide by 28 schools – a little less than 100 But given that there are schools where the number of about 100, there is an opportunity to get the newspaper each, especially since it is free. Teachers know about it, we come, teachers and schools, and kindergartens. When we arrived and were told who we are and what we want is an interview for our magazine, then we already knew, and it was nice that we had a year to become recognizable.
– The paper, it turns out, comes just a year? Wow, for some reason I thought longer, you have such an experience. Distributed newspaper, know about it, it is an important source of information in the field of education of the Perm region. You started to talk about radio, that there will be?
– There is scheduled program, not only related to the events, there is a problem to talk about people. On the children and the teachers do not always know everything, it is also a kind of a problem. We do not know that we can be proud that our guys have gone and won international competitions in Azerbaijan this summer. There are guys who went on the direction of the folklore, and they also brought rewards in Pskov. May make audiokartoteku worthy children and adults area. It will be a meeting, an interview, a brief business cards.
– Natasha, I met with a similar radio school №2, is there a radio station “Ray.” There are other examples, but it is a striking example of the school of corporate radio, which performs those same tasks on kotoryh you say – about orasskazyvaet uspehaha, achievements, our lads out there, here, take this medal, brought a pennant … What other tasks can be addressed through the radio? (Laughs) We are principals discussed this topic. For example, there is a request from the school, not only to cheer radio raskazyvayuschshee the progress and when do high school students or middle school students could really important for them to discuss issues. And maybe not obyaschatelno regional wing, age matters questionYou social, cultural vloprolsy – all they live. It is impossible to believe that the children live isklyuchitelnlo regioalnoy own identity. Yes, they live universal things. What do you think naskloko really such things to do in life, in our schools? As far as feasible, as may be the complexity?
– Sometimes it happens that even the printed edition goes to a particular holiday. There are some examples, even in the area. Just on the radio, we thought that not only cheer, not only good, but also some issues raised. Experts are ready to work, go to the contact, it can be an interview, chat in the studio, psychologists and educators, representatives of the different sectors of activity. Contact with them is, they are willing to cooperate.
– In general, have your radio in the Perm region, which would have all listened to?
– To be honest, I do not know about this.
– It turns out that the regional radio, which would be known to all who live there, no? what audience you are going to then broadcast?
– Since we are talking about school media in particular, it will primarily students, because students tend to leave out Perm region. Either they come to Perm every day if it is not distant land, Lobanovo, Sokol, Savino, Star – can drive every day. And there are those who move to the city …
– Wait, it’s Internet radio. In fact it can be listened to anywhere in the world. Another question is, what audience you expect, for whom you do it? If you broadcast on the Internet, you can communicate from the Perm region some things around the world (laughs).
– I think it will remain the students and some of the students. Still young in priority.
– Youth for Youth. When you work with children in the profile camp, can you name some problem, so important to them, which they were willing to talk to them in important formats?
– Sometimes they say that they do not have is not something that the contact and understanding in conversations with adults. Often, adults perceive “the same children,” and the children begin to manipulate this position. We are the children, and so … But they want to conduct their own recreational activities, conduct site visits. Do not always have the freedom for personal activities. But looking at the camp, with practice in that they tired to prepare this project. Let’s say they were having our “mustachioed party”, was performed …
– Wait, what project they prepared, what is expressed in their journalistic activities?
– These were the leaders, and journalists were preparing their projects were still focused on the creation of the editorial board, the newspaper. How to prepare it, who needs the state, how to distribute functionality? They worked on this technology. They say they do not have enough freedom, which is not always listen to them, even at the school level. Talk about their problems they really want.
– What are the problems, for example?
– lack of shops in Elementary school. They talked about the fact that we can come here, but we stand uncomfortable, we can sit. But then there is a problem that will be garbage – well, they say, we can set the urn duty. Thought and logic they have in this area, and they can think to offer their own versions. Just with the opening of the site, conduct interactive platforms, they can go to other children, to organize flash mobs, social actions. This is entirely in their power, but you need to establish contact and this contact with adults.
– But if we are talking about social actions, what social issues concerned with adolescents engaged in journalism?
– Once difficult to answer unequivocally.
– The decision of what social issues they would like to direct your energy in some of these flash mobs or shares?
– Volunteer assistance, cooperation with other educational institutions. There are separate schools, kindergartens, but the contact between the need to install and configure. For example, to help in the nursery and go our guys that were with us at the core shifts. They said they are willing to take some courses themselves to become leaders of certain editors, led a detachment of like-minded folks.
– So, no social acuity, I still can not hear. Do not have the things that sincerely, passionately concerned with adolescents in the Perm region, in addition to shops near the school? Or do they just not ready to talk about it?
– Sometimes even get this information from them is very difficult, because there is such a position that all the same to me no help, still nothing I can, I’m a child, and I will not allow this, this and this host in the school.
– You had an interesting format because I came as a guest on shift, I saw it with my own eyes of the professionals from the media environment – TV broadcasters, newspaper people radiyschiki who came to your art, you performed the show “100 adult issues. ” What kind of questions children ask professionals or just adults? What do you remember? It’s also essentially journalistic work, interview interlocutor, who came to you.
– The boys were interviewed not only journalists, but also specialists from other fields. They tend to be interested in the flip side, the view from the inside. When they opened it for himself, trying to try, it was said that it is not as easy a question to still have the ability. Asked how and where to get an education, whether it be a professional journalist, journalism education? Asked the impression they themselves that they have going on. Looking from the outside – it’s always interesting.
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