Tatyana Lazareva: Honestly?
Elena Rykovtseva: All honest. If it came to a decrepit old woman, it would be dishonest, and everything is in order. Michael Schatz.
Michael Schatz: that you do not have the document.
Elena Rykovtseva: Unfortunately, I have to disappoint you. Have. We have just shown the 91st year, and then you were scared like myself. And in ’93, I look – a completely different person, a new, fuller, a lot of hair, does not look like himself. Decided to choose the 93rd. First joke show with Michael.
Elena Rykovtseva: And now a song.
Elena Rykovtseva: Here, Michael, climbed quite different rhymes in his head now after the lapse of years. We will not suggest what. I want to ask here these wonderful songs with faith in the future of today are available in your performance?
Michael Schatz: It seems that rhyme others already. There is probably no such romanticism is not in us. I think it is unlikely that we would have to sing this song now. But look nice in this plus such songs of the old chronicles. I think no more than that.
Elena Rykovtseva: Today’s generation of people who come to you for a change, you will see them a little, they were joking about what today show KVN
Michael Schatz: and I personally can not answer for Tanya because Tanya did not watch TV, it is easier to answer such questions.
Elena Rykovtseva: does not watch TV, and WHC, maybe watching. Walks, for example, in the Youth Palace at the invitation.
Tatyana Lazareva: What is the Youth Palace, Lena?
Elena Rykovtseva: Well, the Palace Maslyakova in cinema “Havana”, it does not matter.
Michael Schatz: My house KVN. We were not even invited to the opening.
Tatyana Lazareva: Oh, Michael!
Michael Schatz: We pay them in kind. This is not due to personal relationships, this is due to the fact that …
Tatyana Lazareva: We pay the same coin, however, they do not notice it.
Michael Schatz: No, we just do not look.
Elena Rykovtseva: You do not know how they joke today, whether they are able to sing a song, and whether it would be ridiculous for them.
Tatyana Lazareva: None.
Elena Rykovtseva: Then go back to Novosibirsk team. It would be nice to tell you politically joke 20 years ago, and so are you today in the Coordinating Council of the opposition, because carried through the years. But this is not the case. Novosibirsk team was politically livelier than Leningrad. Let’s see, let us remember a wonderful moment of slapstick ’91 novosibirskoyya team for which they may not currently be drawn Commission, which keeps track of how distorted and falsified history.
Elena Rykovtseva: I forgot to say that in ’91 in the finals you have received the title of best dramatic actress KVN. It was the last title of your might?
Tatyana Lazareva: You now I have opened my eyes that I had any at all ranks. There was Miss WHC, as I recall.
Elena Rykovtseva: No, do not miss KVN, and the best dramatic actress KVN.
Tatyana Lazareva: Perhaps only in the WHC I had any title.
Elena Rykovtseva: Due to the fact that we have just seen. A year ago, I watched the show on TNT, it’s called “Comedy Battle”, in which some people are trying to enter in the “Comedy Club”, and “Comedy Club” – is also KVN, your colleagues may be of a different generation, but colleagues, their estimate – high or not high. There was one guy who is very funny couplets read about the “United Russia”. It was the jury, which included Garik Martirosyan, Slepakov someone else laughed, died. And then suddenly icy face Garik Martirosyan, he says, we will not take, because we’re not kidding about politics. Just as the cut off. Sorry, but you do not pass, we are categorically against political jokes. I still want to ask: Humor, strange people to share. It seems to be free-thinking people must be confident and suddenly the opposite is true: some continue to do it, but others say not o nly politics. How to explain this? Is there something on the WHC, which is in the people of the WHC on the part of freedom through the years?
Tatyana Lazareva: It seems to me that the OIO has nothing to do with it. Freedom is or not, present or not present. As for politics, to be honest, we can remember that when we began the way on television, we had a CAP-studio series “33 square meters”, we always also somehow not something to be proud of, but we did not have jokes about politics ever. Apparently, it’s still a stage of maturation of the human, because just recently, with the same said Garik we talked about it, asking why exactly they are discharged from that and got the same exact answer, no, it’s still not interested and unnecessary, why, if they have and so all is well.
Elena Rykovtseva: is not interesting or profitable, because all is well?
Tatyana Lazareva: I do not dwell so. There can be beneficial to what ails your heart. While not bother – not interested. In this sense, they are far from it and it’s hard to judge them, it’s all probably be coming. Do not come, do not come. Call Garik Martirosyan.
Elena Rykovtseva: Just do not agree, CAP Studio, you say, it was not political, but you parodied the TV then. It has been the policy – parodied TV.
Michael Schatz: I do not agree with it, because “big difference” in fact doing it now, worked until recently.
Elena Rykovtseva: Some glimpses were there.
Michael Schatz: It seems to me no particular policy I have not seen “Big difference”, as, indeed, in the SPF studio. She was little, there was such a category was “All-Russian Society of stupid”, where it was a mini-doom in fact, were of a pre-pre-OSPeshnyh in projects that we have done once a week. But then this is easier to treat. Now our ideological adversary Alexander Akopov, which is actually our old friend, the founder of the CAP studio. I remember when we were shooting in the building RIA-Novosti large channel “Business Russia”, which brought together everyone, including us, OSB studio, including Dr. Malyshev.
Tatyana Lazareva: And Peter Kuleshov.
Elena Rykovtseva: Urgant also worked for Akopova.
Michael Schatz: Not for us, anyway. And then, I remember exactly, we shot quite a killer in these times parody of the cabinet meeting, where I parodied Chernomyrdin, and the rest parody of some of these ministers and capitalists. I remember well, it was in “Black Tuesday”, when the ruble fell once, we were not worried at all, because there was no rubles or dollars, it was easier, completely portable. Akopov then said, “Here take away a little bit.” In general, there was not a shadow of a doubt that we are doing.
Elena Rykovtseva: But it was a state channel, it was a Russian television.
Michael Schatz: Exactly the same as a year ago, almost to blows with Akopov arguing about what is happening and about our relationship to it. And it was completely the opposite, and even Akopov Akopov now and then – it’s a completely different thing. Talk about how the WHC affects people – it’s impossible to trace. In the politics of the WHC Deputy Vladimir Semago, a former Communist, Anar, bright memory of him, was a Member of Parliament, Verkhovna Rada deputy Svetlana Fabricant of Odessa team. That is the policy that come to mind. Guzman can not be called a politician, even though he has gone very close to this, it is normal, compromise a person can take the form of any vessel. Therefore, in this sense, all different. Anyway, different from all occurs.
Elena Rykovtseva: No conclusions, generalizations, global?
Michael Schatz: It depends on the person.
Elena Rykovtseva: The policy we move aside from the WHC, all you can say about the WHC: Yes, he gives way to life on television, scenarios that something else, but has no effect on the outlook.
Michael Schatz: I think it depends on the people who surround you, how do you account for these people look at the world. The way we came with Tanya, it does not mean that we have struggled the past decade with the regime – it is impossible to say so. We came into contact with it in 2011 after it all began. Just due to the fact that in recent years with us there are many people, journalists, quite a free-thinking people, so the situation in ’11 and the subsequent events, we perceived from the point of view of a particular group of people and one side of the fence, so to speak.
Elena Rykovtseva: The difference is that when you have worked in the WHC, that these political jokes, you kept for them. fought and punched when they are cut out and wanted them gone and upset when it was impossible to break them. I watched the rehearsal Maslyakov, it’s all in the record was on. Now there is no need, no longer struggling, now they are not interested – that’s the difference. Now there was another generation, which is not interesting fight for the policy in the humor. Why?
Michael Schatz: I do not know why. First, when we brought these jokes then, we had nothing to lose in the long run. We came up with them, because it was funny, and from this time was that. Yes, I remember, I generally started in ’88 in the WHC play Maslyakov sitting there, and then came and sat down Alexander Ponomarev, then head of the youth staff. Now he enjoys working perfectly on the Public Russian Television.
Tatyana Lazareva: Just come and sit.
Michael Schatz: Exactly the same person can tell you it has not changed, believe me.
Elena Rykovtseva: It can tell a person?
Michael Schatz: can tell a person not using his mouth while.
Tatyana Lazareva: I do not know, before he could so now maybe not.
Michael Schatz: It was clear as soon as he makes the move, it was clear what a joke flies which piece does not fit, what subject we can not speak, and so on.
Elena Rykovtseva: That is, he did move, and then you did not say this joke?
Michael Schatz: He made a movement towards the editor, which is then conveyed to us the meaning of this movement.
Elena Rykovtseva: You are grieved when this happened?
Michael Schatz: Yes, we are distressed. But we’re not upset with the terms of the fight, not from the point of view of freedom of speech, we basically this upset in terms of self-realization. This is ridiculous, what’s the difference? Here there was such a reaction from us. So it was a little bit more time, other people react differently to it.
Elena Rykovtseva: Why is not so?
Michael Schatz: Because time gets you through very quickly and well. Because at that time we did not think about anything at all, and at this time, people began to reflect. People began to think, what to say, where to say who said it really worth it to say.
Elena Rykovtseva: to think about the future in a bad sense of the word .
Michael Schatz: Sure.
Tatyana Lazareva: Yes, self-censorship, which we so afraid.
Elena Rykovtseva: The fact that you are still interested in politics in humor . And what you’re doing, you’re doing funny: to laugh, and that was the policy. For some reason you are interested, and we somehow it’s funny.
Michael Schatz: What we’re doing now is exactly we do consciously, it is not that the whole life was interesting political humor. Actually no – it’s not true, is not it at all. We do this quite deliberately.
Elena Rykovtseva: Because no one does not do so, because the niche.
Michael Schatz: Yes.
Tatyana Lazareva: We felt for her is empirically because, in general, humorous program and we have no interest, and they lean on television. Still, the basic principle remains the same, that was funny. And the topics that we are discussing now, why are they political? Because what matters to people. Most of our circle of care, although not always political, about Arshavin telling a joke or we will be in the next issue to joke about that, God forgive me, or will not be trifled with. This is a problem that all concerned.
Michael Schatz: Two reasons have this program … We have already started talking about the “TV on the knee”
Elena Rykovtseva: We’re about to talk about it. You all put on the line is called, in 2011. When you are in politics, you knew what you were surprised at risk or that have lost everything? You still have lost their jobs in large channels. You knew it or you did not think that would happen?
Michael Schatz: No, this is an emotional decision, there is justice when Courtyard someone hits someone, there is not quite understand the consequences sometimes. It’s exactly the same story is an emotional decision to be on the side of those people who you absolutely sympathize whose position you share – it’s exactly that, absolutely, nothing more.
Elena Rykovtseva: You could, like everyone else, go to the marshy area, to participate, to express their support only by their presence and do you have for it was not. Because I think that many of your colleagues went, to attend, noting in a good sense were noted. But you also went to the leadership of this organization, you went on – it was already a risk. You understand what you are doing in terms of career?
Michael Schatz: From the point of view of the situation in a career still ’12 developed more rapidly I mean, in reality, it has developed more rapidly than in our heads. We are at the beginning of ’12 and could not imagine, how we will live in the 13th. So I can not say that in performing this act of participating in the elections to the Coordinating Council, we are clearly seemed to understand what we are in danger. It was not, nobody should deceive themselves first and foremost. This is exactly the emotional decision to just go to the end.
Elena Rykovtseva: And when fell away from your colleagues Ksenia Sobchak one project after another, you assume No breaking of her fate?
Michael Schatz: None. Anyone who thinks that he does not die, and secondly, he thinks he is old, he will be healthy and so on. Therefore, when such a thing happens to you, you realize how stupid you were not that stupid, naive – a more precise definition.
Elena Rykovtseva: Now that you know it, you do not regret?
Michael Schatz: Actually, no, I do anyway. There must be every man for himself can answer. I do not regret it, because that’s what I’m doing now, I’m a lot closer than what I was doing there and a half years.
Tatyana Lazareva: Engaged would have continued to engage.
Michael Schatz: Or would deal on this TV. Because what we have lost – we lost a TV, we lost access to large federal channels. But since we are people of entertainment, entertaining television – and that’s what I would do if it were not for all this, I’ll tell you honestly, in my opinion, quite a sorry state. TV at the moment – it’s not a cry man who says, because with it so treated. I absolutely can honestly say – I do not watch TV. I only watch football, which I love, and all the more interesting to me nothing and American soap operas, English, Western, no matter interesting series and films some – that’s my whole set.
Elena Rykovtseva: Because television …?
Michael Schatz: Because TV is Dead , he smells bad.
Elena Rykovtseva: Even if you do not touch politics, and entertainment shows bright, “The Voice”, to which the whole country “sunk».
Michael Schatz: Great show, great. Anyway, I will not say that everyone knows that this is the format overseas – this is normal, this is particularly true globalization of television.
Elena Rykovtseva: Make a good foreign format.
Michael Schatz: All is fine.
Tatyana Lazareva: Yes, they can still make someone else’s bad form, I agree.
Michael Schatz: OK to make the show , everything is fine. When the round one “Voice”, then you want something else – an inner feeling. “The Voice”, not even “The Voice” is not quite accurate sample, and such razvlekuha for razvlekuhi because “the Voice” – a talent show, in which there is social commentary, indeed the very social elevator, which helps unknown man from the provinces and not to go to become a “Eurovision”, for example. It is very good in my opinion. But there are a lot of shows that are made for the sake of just killing time, just take it. Because of this a lot of time, nothing more, there is only razvlekuha news, feature films. Television has lost its face.
Elena Rykovtseva: You would do the show went on the channel “Friday” to Kartozia, for example?
Michael Schatz: Dear Nicholas, our beloved, respected specialist television, I do not really understand what it can offer us.
Elena Rykovtseva: Allow.
Michael Schatz: No, he may be allowed to . In this case, Nicholas strongly positioned itself as a completely independent television producers, telemendzher. I, frankly, have little faith in it.
Tatyana Lazareva: At the very least, the format that we are currently doing on the Internet, too accurately on any TV channel can not appear.
Elena Rykovtseva: We now show you. Only Tanya tell you regret?
Tatyana Lazareva: I regret only one thing that my transfer, which I led, was closed. It was a very good transfer, “That’s my baby!” She nothing to do with politics had. It was a transfer, cementing family relationships, transmission, which is not enough. It was a pity. But then again, I really hope that they come up and make like anyone.
Elena Rykovtseva: With what you tie, reach them or not, what events in the life of the country is about to happen, they realized that?
Tatyana Lazareva: I do not know what to happen. I’m talking specifically about the issue of family values, family relationships, moral values ??and high moral standards.
Elena Rykovtseva: That is, if it comes to them that family values ??above political?
Tatyana Lazareva: Where to now begin to have a way to lift the chaos begin. I can not imagine how.
Elena Rykovtseva: We’ll get to your new project. And now we are talking about a bright present, which you have – a project “Television on the knee.” You once told that the best TV on the knee that lap, beat great symbolic. And we now see a small fragment, which concerns the election of the mayor of Moscow.
Tatyana Lazareva: At the end of each transmission, we have the song normally.
Elena Rykovtseva: Who are you writing jokes now?
Michael Schatz: We have a small group of people, our comrades. that under the terms of the game we started to play, do not climb into the frame. We do not have a lot of people actually. We have five people in Moscow, including us with Tanya, and there is a proven old friends to help us in some capacity, content, send, take part in our brainstorming sessions. Generally it is a project that we through ourselves, we are doing it mostly.
Elena Rykovtseva: It is extremely cute. But he can not see those 62% of the population of the Russian Federation, which are not covered by the internet.
Michael Schatz: Yes. Look, we still satisfied with the results, because the special issue devoted to divorce Putin watched by 750,000 people. Now with the latest release of Navalny has passed for 300. Believe me, we looked at and the results probably no worse than any good “Rain.” I think that with the “Rain” in our audience comparable.
Elena Rykovtseva: Tell you for it will not attract – for premature promotion Navalny as a mayoral candidate who has not yet registered and is not eligible for election campaign?
Tatyana Lazareva: It is difficult to name a promotion campaign, I think it is some slight blurring.
Michael Schatz: The expectation that it will be held municipal filter is also very small. Therefore can not register at all, in spite of our program.
Elena Rykovtseva: Answer frankly, and you get sick of it, for Navalny as for the candidate for mayor?
Tatyana Lazareva: Of course.
Elena Rykovtseva: If he was registered, you would have voted for him?
Tatyana Lazareva: If we did not suffer for it, we would have called Sobyanin to his transfer.
Michael Schatz: Even that is not the fact that Navalny – one side of the fence, it’s not that. Alexey has at least there is a way that it passes before our eyes. I’m not saying that it is past its smooth, passed by it perfectly, but it’s his passes. He makes himself as a politician, not as fast as we would like, not so successfully, is not without problems. For questions with big, but it does. So in that sense I have no desire to support another opposition candidate, Mitrokhin us, it turns out? Honestly, Mitrokhin was 20. Frankly, I remember, at the St. Petersburg elections voted for the “Apple”. That’s enough. I want other people, other people.
Elena Rykovtseva: Tanya, this is your candidate – Bulk? Let’s seriously imagine: here tomorrow mayoral election in Moscow, the day after tomorrow will be the mayor of the city Bulk. And he’s such a relationship with the party and the government. In what will become the city that will be deprived of this, fifth, tenth, leverage finance, relationships, because Navalny and opposition leader had no support group in power.
Tatyana Lazareva: This can not be, of course, of course, something will change. It is unlikely that anything will change in the long run. But here’s the thought that someone, if not Putin, and who, if not Sobyanin, she just got. Want more in life to see how things can and should change in my life. Just in this sense Bulk gives hope. He just wants and fair elections, which will be subject to recall and fair election.
Michael Schatz: I do not know how to tell you. I agree with what Tanya says in part, kind of do not understand people who are suddenly in Sergei Sobyanin seen good manager who finally got down to business and started to do what he did. If it were not for Sergei Kapkov, who was recently Grigory Revzin recently called “the park muse” Sergei Semenovich, who is trying to lead us to solitude in the parks with Wi-Fi …
Elena Rykovtseva: He went there with a rake, I saw him.
Michael Schatz: With the greatest respect for the kapok. Here, you know, what is it, this election, we are told we need a handyman here. This election is not, it’s not about this election really about another – is an election about that, do you have elections or not you have elections.
Tatyana Lazareva: And will there still.
Michael Schatz: So in that sense, yes, my candidate Bulk because Bulk – this is primarily a political alternative. Here we are on that …
Elena Rykovtseva: I would like to just elections, and on good terms.
Michael Schatz: Just choices you had in the 11th and 12th years, right now we are not talking about it. Speech about the fact that what you want ways, but that you have a political party or a political leader who would say something distinctly opposite that side. In this sense, the other alternative I can not see. Will – I will vote for it.
Elena Rykovtseva: Unfortunately a lot, we can see an example of the Coordinating Council, which you get in, that is when people have little chance of power within themselves. They included a very different forces. What do we see today? I will not retell it yourself know it. Even today, one of your colleagues declare the vote, what to do with another colleague, who does not meet the proud title of the members of the Coordinating Council, let’s eliminate all the world, to impeach the same electors who participated. Here’s a kind and an example.
Michael Schatz: You are talking about what is going on inside of a small group of people who really are a kind of cut, you are absolutely right to say that show and the absence of charismatic Political leaders and the lack of explicit, distinct political forces that might be of what you think, what you dream, at the state level. In this sense, it is a small handful of people who are now talking about something else. It is a question that everyone is talking about what we went through …
Elena Rykovtseva: Elections for election. We say that we have the example of your board, which has been selected for the election to show that it is possible, albeit informally, albeit informally, but to choose between their own.
Michael Schatz: The most correct in the creation of the Coordination Council elections. They were carried out at the right moment, when people had to show that there is an alternative, lungs, without fraud. Here is what was the purpose.
Tatyana Lazareva: What you can do.
Michael Schatz: It was a clear choice. Another issue is that the election results nor to no avail, but there the process was more important than the result. Remember ’12 – same situation is developing quite quickly, and the fact that it seemed to us important in September ’12, now not so important. Roughly speaking, in September of ’12 and the summer of ’12 it was important to show that you can safely, without any absentee ballots to hold elections by sending sms from your mobile phone – that’s the gist. And by the way, Sobyanin now before our eyes cancels absentee ballots.
Elena Rykovtseva: He is trying to force MPs to support other candidates. For some reason it’s called PR.
Michael Schatz: It speaks into the microphone, and that’s what they say behind the microphone, no one knows. The situation with municipal deputies, which we were told Alex came on air, is completely different.
Tatyana Lazareva: And the fact that Sobyanin has scored 600-something votes out of 110 needed.
Michael Schatz: In the two times more than necessary votes or many times – this is also true. Tanya rang round several municipal deputies and talked to them, because Alex came into our air for a reason, he says, then help me with municipal deputies. At least it’s honest. This is the fee that we can not afford at the moment.
Elena Rykovtseva: Helped? How much is it now, as you need to get?
Tatyana Lazareva: 110 minimum.
Elena Rykovtseva: And there are how many?
Michael Schatz: I do not know exactly, but missing a few dozen at least.
Elena Rykovtseva: Your popularity should play a role, you are loved.
Michael Schatz: You are mistaken, believe me. In this matter, you are very mistaken. I always give the example that happened to me in the presidential elections on March 4, when I was working with a group of observers in St. Petersburg. I have all pushed forward and said Michael, go to them, they get to know you and everything will once blue and green or any other color. I went to the police and said that we break the law, he advised me to call the police, but another, not ourselves, someone else. It does not work here, it’s not that, it’s not about that.
Elena Rykovtseva: I suggest to remember that she sang Tatyana Lazareva 20 years ago on the deputies.
Elena Rykovtseva: Tatiana, then you are really about other members sang, who go to work and go to work. Now, this song is totally irrelevant.
Michael Schatz: All watched on TV.
Elena Rykovtseva: On the TV for a meeting, his wife was waiting at home. Now where his wife is waiting for the deputy’s wife and whether it is waiting for?
Michael Schatz: At home there.
Tatyana Lazareva: I have a few friends of Deputies, so that I could evaluate how they live.
Elena Rykovtseva: You do not want to run? I seriously ask – somewhere, in some kind of thought, Moscow? You are still in politics.
Tatyana Lazareva: No, no, it’s a completely different mindset.
Elena Rykovtseva: You can not say you’re a politician?
Tatyana Lazareva: I do not even capable of it, I just have no such talent. It is quite another, and other skills, and I worked in television, largely forgotten how to work, somehow it all.
Elena Rykovtseva: to go to the meetings.
Tatyana Lazareva: Once everything the hard way. I for myself exclude such a possibility.
Elena Rykovtseva: And you, Michael?
Michael Schatz: I’m also still disappointed in what I see around me, including my understanding that that routine work that is needed for the MP, while Not for me for sure. I say “yet” because at this time.
Elena Rykovtseva: It is only a routine or when you fall, you even got there, all the same it was no, you do not change this swamp?
Michael Schatz: It needs a very professional approach, believe me. I will not mention the names of some MPs and think that they are professionally prepared much better. Just surrounds each of them a professional team of people that definitely needs by understanding your political direction, to show the different ways certain tasks. So far what we have done with Tanya in politics, has been connected with some personal decisions and personal contact with a huge number of people and so on. That is causing great concern. You know, what’s up, we realized when we ran and when elections were held to the Coordinating Council, when all of a sudden started to debate economic ask any questions, here the big question is, what am I doing here in the long run.
Elena Rykovtseva: Do you honestly say that you are incompetent or have you tried somehow to pretend that you know?
Michael Schatz: Tanya was not involved, by the way, I participated. I honestly answered that it does not matter to me, I am not prepared to answer.
Elena Rykovtseva: But for myself, knew that it would be good to be able to answer it and understand how to respond.
Michael Schatz: Probably, yes, to a great politician is precisely necessary. Because people can turn to you with any question completely.
Tatyana Lazareva: It is very good that people, quite obviously, and it’s nice to look at, now worried about a lot of issues that they had not bothered. They try to penetrate and try to solve something – it’s very nice.
Elena Rykovtseva: This is a very responsible for you if you do go. It is not a feel of this.
Tatyana Lazareva: It is the right word – it is responsible.
Elena Rykovtseva: Victor asks you: “What do you think, will your project be repaid? ‘. This refers to the “TV on the knee».
Tatyana Lazareva: If Victor was there, I would like to ask how he imagined it? We Misha have this opinion, as we pass by and large take off for their money, then we are paying for their own groove. I would say that it is unlikely to lead to something to this, no investor seems to me that it does not take over.
Elena Rykovtseva: According to the principle of “Rain” – it’s hard to do, I do not believe it – close the content, do not free, the ester of a paid online.
Michael Schatz: It is difficult, but possible. Not need to close the content, you can embed some or advertising. Advertising is doubtful because few people dare to advertise their products in such a transfer.
Elena Rykovtseva: Here is his business will be covered.
Tatyana Lazareva: It is unlikely that his business is, we can cover immediately.
Elena Rykovtseva: No, it will be covered first. It will call and say that he did not do. It can not be will be covered, will not have time. As long as you have on the financial side is not.
Michael Schatz: Not yet, no financial program.
Elena Rykovtseva: They ask you, what does your colleague Andrei Bocharov of “33 square feet” and OSB studio.
Tatyana Lazareva: He is also on the Internet, you can find it. He remained under the nickname “Bocharik” did not change the name. Also deals with humor and also came including political humor.
Elena Rykovtseva: at the Swamp he came?
Tatyana Lazareva: I do not know.
Michael Schatz: At the Swamp, he just was. Is now working in collaboration with Eugene Shestakov, and there are quite evil things they do, hard-hitting political.
Elena Rykovtseva: This message is about Navalny: “A hypothetical victory Navalny automatically leads to the resignation of Putin. Renews the rally, and more. Therefore, his victory will not allow any price “, – said Victor. Either Putin or Bulk. They can not co-exist together from the point of view of the listener.
Michael Schatz: I also think that what we talked about this probability, it looks very doubtful that it even allow for the election. Because of the risk of undoubted authority, in the sense that despite the fact that they have created a vacuum in the political life, any minimal chance …
Tatyana Lazareva: Microbe.
Michael Schatz: Some sort of probability that events will develop in a way that will make some threat, of course, from this point of view, it is unprofitable to allow Navalny at all before the election. For bulk accordingly important to get into the race. Because for him, first of all, it is a school.
Tatyana Lazareva: your experience and check your team.
Elena Rykovtseva: to be shown for the first time, there’s so ever.
Michael Schatz: It will not allow this. I’m pretty sure that if allowed, there would be a high probability that even a second round.
Elena Rykovtseva: They complain of him on federal channels, Navalny, it sounded in the program Posner Matvienko. He said Matvienko: how do you feel about the fact that some of the figures we are not allowed to call to the TV? She says, “Like what?”. “For example Navalny.” At this time, bring a note Posner and he says, “Oh, sorry, twice named Navalny, he did not come.” The talk show called Gordon, somewhere else. What you think about it, why did he not go?
Michael Schatz: I can not think of such things, which I do not know.
Tatyana Lazareva: To us he came, for example.
Elena Rykovtseva: That is, he feels comfortable with you. Maybe it goes back to where he’s comfortable? And is it right for a politician?
Michael Schatz: I do not know of cases where it has refused, under any circumstances, it was the first thing. Secondly, I can say we are in the lobby spoke about what he is going through a very difficult time – it’s true. Not only by his own will, not by choice. Simple day or week Navalny Navalny – it’s probably hard and difficult to imagine what it is.
Elena Rykovtseva: And this is not a campaign.
Michael Schatz: Who runs the court at the same time, to which he had to go, he goes at the same time start predgonku some, he feels a constant pressure, and there he should go, and here and so on. This is something that I know what I saw.
Elena Rykovtseva: Michael, you run a variety of events, completely unexpected. I was reminded today on Facebook that you were one activity associated with our company Radio Liberty.
Michael Schatz: Yes, it is.
Elena Rykovtseva: But I was asked to inquire about the event, which I had not seen: what were you at this party is very pretentious “Kommersant” in St. Petersburg, which you handle it? Ask you to share your impressions.
Michael Schatz: It was, first, a very beautiful event, I’ll start from the beginning. Really close to my house, St. Michael’s Castle, the best time in St. Petersburg. Peter generally fine, but at this time it is incomparable. Mikhailovsky Castle is open. Since it is close to my house, all this history with the closing, it was inaccessible to people, and then it was opened, I was the first time in his life came inside. This is the first, that, as to the entourage of the event. As for myself, believe me, “Kommersant” remains for me the main source of information. With that, I’ll probably like the rest of us understand that he has changed. “Kommersant FM” – a radio that I listen to, and the “Kommersant” newspaper – a newspaper to which I refer occasionally. Everything else, the presence at the meeting of Alisher Usmanov or anyone else. Who else was there? Some governors. And, for example, Igor Sechin, who received the award of “Kommersant” for media openness, was not present at the awards.
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